View Full Version : Assult Rifle, PLEASE!
G65_The _Strange_One
01-05-2005, 12:04 AM
I don't know about you, but I was ticked that they left out the old assult rifle in Halo 2. That gun was 'da bomb! They can still have SMGs, but that gun just feels a lot more... Well... Halo-ish. But i there's a must for Halo 3, it's that olde assult rifle.
Dark Eagle
01-05-2005, 12:06 AM
I liked the Assault Rifle better than the SMGs as well. I'd like them to bring it back.
Spartan
01-05-2005, 06:48 AM
The first assult rifle had a quicker firing rate but the second one is much more accurate. Like Sean Connery said in The Leage of Extrodinary Gentleman "If you can't do it in one bullet, don't do it at all."
Big Willy
01-05-2005, 05:55 PM
The first assult rifle had a quicker firing rate but the second one is much more accurate. Like Sean Connery said in The Leage of Extrodinary Gentleman "If you can't do it in one bullet, don't do it at all."
As you probably know, there was no assault rifle in the second one, it was removed and replaced by the battle rifle that was semi-auto and really accurate and the smg that was full auto and had horrible accuracy in full auto, you had to use short bursts to keep the guns from shooting the ceiling. Which is really pointless, why have something that is less powerful, but full auto, but when it is in full auto it has horrible accuracy. But if you chose to use the battle rifle up close you had to work under pressure to get good shots.
I really want the old assault rifle back, or better yet augment the battle rifle to where you could switch between semi and full auto mode. That would be the best solution.
G65_The _Strange_One
01-05-2005, 08:05 PM
No, put in the olde one, but still leave in the new. Guns don't just dissapear like that, especially guns that have been distributed throughout he UNSC.
French Toast
01-05-2005, 08:25 PM
the assault rifle was the most used gun in h1 but humanity has upgraded since then. they are not going to have the AR, switch to the BR and then go back to the AR again. at the most the AR will be available in multiplayer as an option, not a map default.
master_krull2087
01-05-2005, 09:34 PM
I say that if people wnat the AR and the BR then in Halo3 they should bring back both guns. So that people will be happy about the guns with no complainig.
master_cheif_is_better
01-06-2005, 12:53 AM
I say in Halo 3 they should forget the smgs and bring back the assult rifle becaues the smgs are horribly unaccurate and if i can't make them work no one can
iZma3l
01-07-2005, 12:51 AM
i preferred the battle rifle now but if they brough back the assault rifle that would be good for me because either way it will work
humanbountyhunter
01-07-2005, 02:50 AM
but they shouldnt really bring back the assault rifle because its to easy to kill elites and harder covenant. cause you couldjust blast them away going yyyyyyyaaaaarrrrggggghhhhhhhhh.
unlike the one that fires three bullets which makes you move around more or face the enemy while getting attacked.
big chief
01-07-2005, 09:36 AM
You know what? i fell in love with the assault rifle i would love it to be brought back
humanbountyhunter
01-07-2005, 01:02 PM
The first assult rifle had a quicker firing rate but the second one is much more accurate. Like Sean Connery said in The Leage of Extrodinary Gentleman "If you can't do it in one bullet, don't do it at all."
yah but your using 3 bullets not one
CreamSaw
01-07-2005, 04:42 PM
I say bring the AR back and keep the smg and battle rifle it would add more flavor the AR did more damage and was more accurate then the smg but dualing the smg and something else is more effective, and you can melee with the AR.
G65_The _Strange_One
01-08-2005, 05:33 PM
What I meant by, 'bring back the AR," is keep in all the other guns, which means BR and SMGs, and just add the AR back into the mix. In First Strike, they had the Battle Rifle and the Assult Rifle, so why not in the games? And I think the duel SMGs and an Assult Rifle and a Battle Rifle are all equal. The SMGs, even with their unaccuracy, pump an unendless stream of bullets if you alternate fire, or a hail of projectiles if fired at the same time. The AR needs to be reloaded and doesn't pump as many as duels, but is more powerful. The BR has a zoom, and that pretty much lays itself out.
Gruntaloob
01-08-2005, 11:31 PM
I actually like the battle rifle better because it has the scope and is much more powerful/accurate. If you use one right, i can be just as effective as an assualt rifle and pssibly better. They should switch the Covenant Carbine for he assualt rifle.
Dark Eagle
01-09-2005, 12:12 AM
I think they should just bring back the Assault Rifle without taking anything out.
karatana
01-09-2005, 02:53 AM
i think they should make the battle rifle have 60 round magazine and you can chose semi automatic fully automatic and 3 round burst have 3 guns in one :)
Dark Eagle
01-09-2005, 01:26 PM
That would be way too powerful. No gun should be that versatile; that's why we have multiple weapons.
G65_The _Strange_One
01-09-2005, 06:46 PM
Why is everyone, "Alright then, if we're going to add the assult rifle, we're going to take something out!" No! It seems only a handful of people get it! (I'm not trying to diss anyone, so sorry if you feel like I am.) You just add the assult rifle back. Plain. Simple. Just like that. You don't take anything out. NOTHING.
Dark Eagle
01-09-2005, 06:58 PM
I agree with you there.
humanbountyhunter
01-09-2005, 07:12 PM
Why is everyone, "Alright then, if we're going to add the assult rifle, we're going to take something out!" No! It seems only a handful of people get it! (I'm not trying to diss anyone, so sorry if you feel like I am.) You just add the assult rifle back. Plain. Simple. Just like that. You don't take anything out. NOTHING.
but what if we wana take out something... huh huh huh
:p :p :p
G65_The _Strange_One
01-09-2005, 07:19 PM
Hahaha. Yes. Very funny. :rolleyes:
humanbountyhunter
01-09-2005, 07:30 PM
*in stingy voice* Hahaha. Yes. Very funny. :rolleyes:
Spartin0110
01-09-2005, 07:57 PM
I bet there is going to be a better assualt rifle with a grenade luncher (not the brute shot) With a scope.
Paranoid Survivor 420
01-10-2005, 05:01 AM
If anything else, they should create a NEW weapon. Like a Covenant AR with an Energy Sword attached to it, or something... either way, more close combat weapons, like a knife, or maybe a new type of explosive.
Max Payne
01-10-2005, 07:13 AM
or they should make a human sword where one hit was a kill but u cant lock on like covenant sword so it could be cool or what else would be cool is if the master cheif always had a blade in possession and if you wanted to be the elite the elite had a mini covenant energy sword but it didnt lock on
now wouldent it be cool:):)
MasterChief316
01-10-2005, 02:54 PM
I dont think I could imagine the MasterChief holding a Samurai Sword
Dark Eagle
01-10-2005, 07:00 PM
If the MC had any human sword, a katana would definitely be best, but I think it just wouldn't fit. Go with the energy sword, and have a flamethrower for a human melee weapon.
humanbountyhunter
01-10-2005, 10:03 PM
what the humans need is a stun knife and you can dual weild a weapon with it so its like jab stunned for 5 seconds then blast them away with a smg
Dark Eagle
01-11-2005, 12:15 AM
Having a stun weapon like that would be sort of cool, but blasting away afterword would be a stupid move. Just circle around behind them and give 'em a whack.
humanbountyhunter
01-11-2005, 12:21 AM
if youd want to do that youcould but i want to blast them away
G65_The _Strange_One
01-12-2005, 02:56 AM
A stun knife like that would be too powerful... Its an automatic, *Hit! Move behind and ASSASSINATION!* As for Paranoid Surviver's cuvy AR, that's a Plasma Rifle or a Brute Plasma Rifle. But a type of explosive... LOTUS ANTI-TANK MINE BABY! I can't express how awsome that would be... Although make them rare, like the rocket launcher or the (put it in the multi, Bungie) Fuel Rod Cannon.
humanbountyhunter
01-12-2005, 12:54 PM
my bro like the fuel rod gun
A Tazer to stun enimes or it could make ur screen blury
Captain Keys
01-13-2005, 07:22 PM
They sud make flood weapons that are adapted from human or covenant weapons. That wud be gr8!!!
humanbountyhunter
01-13-2005, 10:40 PM
but flood are from dead covenant ad maries so how would they make their own
Orannis
01-14-2005, 04:41 AM
they should have a new weapon in Halo 3 called bucket o' nuclear waste. just a bucket of green sludge that when u throw the sludge at people it sticks to them and starts killing them over a period of time. imagine how cool that would be. :D actuallty i'm just kidding. but no really they should have that
Dark Eagle
01-14-2005, 01:35 PM
I think gameplay-wise that would basically be the equivalent of the old Flamethrower from the PC version of Halo 1. I really hope they bring that back.
Racer
01-14-2005, 07:19 PM
Hmmm why not some White Phosporus grenades... which would be good for CTF or something like team slayer let them burn slowly and completely.
Sinnaro
01-15-2005, 02:47 AM
It would be cool to have those remote mines you can set off like on golden eye on N64 but those would be kinda cheap
CPODoc0001
01-15-2005, 02:28 PM
Well i like th dual weapon feature in halo 2 but it would be sweet to say have dual rocket launchers or dual shotguns. also i think it would be great to have flash bangs in the game. it would be great for the darker levels. . i would like to also see the ability to throw gernades even if you have dual weilding weapons.
Olimac
01-15-2005, 03:35 PM
It would be cool to have those remote mines you can set off like on golden eye on N64 but those would be kinda cheap
I like this idea,is so pretty good i like that i like. :D
Olimac
01-15-2005, 03:37 PM
Well i like th dual weapon feature in halo 2 but it would be sweet to say have dual rocket launchers or dual shotguns. also i think it would be great to have flash bangs in the game. it would be great for the darker levels. . i would like to also see the ability to throw gernades even if you have dual weilding weapons.
I like the idea the dual shotguns. :)
G65_The _Strange_One
02-27-2005, 09:46 PM
Duel shotguns!? You people obviously don't care about the fine mechanics of balance Bungie has for so long considered! Sinnaro, those would be Lotus Anti-Tank Mines, they're in the books everywhere. All I wanted was to talk about putting the assult rifle in, and you people go off on all this other stuff. Meh.
Salty McSushi
02-27-2005, 09:55 PM
The SMG is a piece of crap. The Battle rifle is good but has a low number of bullets. The Assault Rifle is in between. Halo 2 lacks a gun which stands as a norm for all other guns to be rated. That gun was the Assault Rifle. It could kill a grunt in a shot and kill an elite in a clip. The SMG takes like 5 shots for a grunt and you need to reload to have enough bullets to kill an elite.
They should bring the Halo 1 plasma pistol back. It was way better than the disgrace that is known as the Halo 2 plasma pistol.
Senator Sanchez
02-27-2005, 10:36 PM
I acctually enjoy the pistols in Halo 2...i like the H1 pistol better...but i like the pistols. other than that i perfer the assault rifle over the SMG...but the dul SMG's over the assault rifel...barely but i still do.
-The Lunchlady
G65_The _Strange_One
02-27-2005, 11:20 PM
I don't want anything taken out, as said before. I just want the assult rifle thrown back in with the SMG and BR still there. Guns don't disappear like that.
Dark Eagle
02-27-2005, 11:23 PM
The switch from Assault Rifle wasn't sudden, it was happening throughout First Strike. They were testing out the Magnums and stuff throughout the book. I agree that militaries don't requip themselves overnight, but it can happen pretty fast. It's not as though the SMG wasn't around during Halo 1, but it just wasn't standard yet. It was already an experimental weapon for a while, and experimental weapons, once they get going, can replace standard ones in a couple of weeks.
G65_The _Strange_One
02-28-2005, 12:11 AM
Yes, but are the SMGs, magnums, and Battle Rifles really better than the Assult Rifle? The SMGs and Magnums are pretty... Limeted, shall we say, to what they can really accomplish. I remember the transition to them throughout First Strike too, but I still remember there being MA5Bs until the end of the book. Hmm... Typing in MA5B brought something to mind.
Remember in The Fall of Reach when John had that MA2B? That seems like a good idea to me to have MA2Bs, MA3Bs, and MA4Bs on the next XBox and on Halo 4. An addition with all of those into Halo 3 would be rather sudden, and certainly don't add all of those even when it comes to Halo 4 (if there even is going to be one). And then you add a flamethrower and a covanent super weapon as a plot twist, and there you go.
BoonedockSaint
02-28-2005, 01:51 AM
The switch from Assault Rifle wasn't sudden, it was happening throughout First Strike. They were testing out the Magnums and stuff throughout the book. I agree that militaries don't requip themselves overnight, but it can happen pretty fast. It's not as though the SMG wasn't around during Halo 1, but it just wasn't standard yet. It was already an experimental weapon for a while, and experimental weapons, once they get going, can replace standard ones in a couple of weeks.
Yeah, magnums and battle rifles were introduced in First Strike. But at the same time, the old fuel rod gun (the one with the fail safe that made it explode when dropped). And it made no mention of the carbine or the sword. But all in all, i am glad that the Assualt rifle is gone, the UNSC has moved on to bigger and better things.
G65_The _Strange_One
02-28-2005, 01:53 AM
So you're saying SMGs and Magnums are bigger and better than the Assult Rifle? They both suck compared to it! The Assult Rifle was perfectly balanced!
BoonedockSaint
02-28-2005, 01:54 AM
Well i like th dual weapon feature in halo 2 but it would be sweet to say have dual rocket launchers or dual shotguns. also i think it would be great to have flash bangs in the game. it would be great for the darker levels. . i would like to also see the ability to throw gernades even if you have dual weilding weapons.
It would be cool to do, but logically thinking, how would you throw a grenade when you are holding a gun in each hand? It just doenst make sense, it would be cool, but it doenst seem possible.
G65_The _Strange_One
02-28-2005, 01:59 AM
And also CPOD or whatever your username is, could you hold two rockets and fire one with the other hand occupied? It would be too powerful and unorthodox... Ok, maybe not unorthodox, but too powerful!
BoonedockSaint
02-28-2005, 02:03 AM
So you're saying SMGs and Magnums are bigger and better than the Assult Rifle? They both suck compared to it! The Assult Rifle was perfectly balanced!
Im not saying that they are necessairly better than the Assualt rifle, but they are more useful than the MA5B was. Now that there is duel wielding, you can get a plasma gun in one hand, and an SMG or Magnum in the other and own anything that gets in your way, unless it is a newb with a rocket launcher or someone with a sword or possibly a shotgun. And with 2 smg's you can hit someone with twice as many shots as you can with one. And since the SMG holds the same ammount of ammo that the Assualt rifle did, its basically putting twice as much lead into the enemy. You have to consider the fact that the AR fired 7.62mm and that the Smg fires 5mm, but still, its a lot more bullets than the AR could fire.
G65_The _Strange_One
02-28-2005, 02:07 AM
Yes, but when duel weilding, it takes much longer to refill your ammo. In the time it takes to reload an empty SMG, you could have fired a whole clip off already! The Assult Rifle is quick to refill, plus it holds much more ammo than even triple SMGs. SMGs are not better. They are worse.
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